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So, do y'all store emergency water at home? If not, why not?

If so, how many gallons, and how many people live there?

We live on a well system, not city water, but I'm aware that 1) the well pump runs on electricity, and 2) even if the electricity didn't go out, if a big enough natural disaster happened here, that well could be churning out nothing but mud for days.

We have a lot of water stored, more than we'll ever likely need, but that's because after we put in a basic emergency supply we had some more gifted to us and we have the space to store it. We've got between 65-70 gallons; that's for drinking and cleaning and flushing toilets, for three people and four dogs.

How's by you?

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I read a story online about a pandemic. The story was purely fictional, but I'd love to read it again. There were probably 20 chapters.

Does anybody know the story I'm speaking of?
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I was going to write an entry that discussed What To Do and How To Prepare if you get sick, but then I found that it had been done for me, three years ago. Replace "avian flu" with "swine flu" or, really, any other human transmissible illness.

It's too long to cut and paste, and there are excellent suggestions in the comments anyway, so I'll just leave the link.

The only thing I would add to her list are face masks. These are incredibly cheap and easy to come by in grocery stores right now; however, should there be an outbreak of *anything* in your area, you'll likely be dependent on picking some up from the government. Just buy a few boxes now; they don't go bad.

Crossposted to my personal journal. Apologies to those who are getting it twice.
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Source: Stephen Crowley/The New York TimesIn a decision that has delighted many, the Obamas are planting a large food garden on the White House South Lawn. It will be organic and have several varieties of vegetables, herbs, and berries, many requested by the White House cooks.

I think it sends a wonderful message about enjoying food, the outdoors, and the bounty of nature, encourages people to take a more active and aware role in their diets, and carries on a tradition of agriculturalism as valued by Jefferson and others.

An additional reason why people often grow food is that it gives them a sense of self-reliance. True, the grocery store or even the farmers' market is usually more reliable than your local weather and gardening skills, and growing your own food is usually more expensive than buying it. But if you end up moving to a different place where stores aren't so reliable, if there is some kind of transportation disaster or quarantine where food can't be shipped around, if you simply want to live off the grid, or if you find yourself reconstructing civilization after a major disaster, having a vegetable garden will help provide you with food security. And it's nice to feel secure in this even if the necessity never arises.

What other reasons can you think of why growing food could be a good part of a plan or preparation?

And let's not forget the planning that goes into gardening itself. The Obamas have a very nice design for their vegetable garden. Next time I get a chance I'd like to go and take a picture of the finished product.
Source: The White House

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If you are living with an x spouse after a disaster, regardless of your estrangement, you are by FEMA LAWS RULES AND GUIDELINES, considered "FAMILY". This makes you ineligible for housing reimbursement.

Depending upon the state in which you NOW reside, this issue pertains to your children. Regardless of your previous estrangement from an x spouse, the state will tell you that your x spouse has to apply for healthcare and food and make provisions to having your child-support removed per their state laws. 

FEMA makes no exception for "estranged x family". 

FEMA makes no exception for you or your children in having to live with an abusive x spouse, who has been estranged from children by his own will.

Regardless of what order a Gov. dictates with regards to the suspension of civil procedure, landlords my evict due to NON-PAYMENT of rent or any reason that they dictate and do not have to follow parish, state, or municipal guidelines pertaining to evicitions. It makes no difference that the bank cannot tell you your balance information.


Landlords can loot their renters homes, if the renters have evacuated.  The police will allow it and do not follow the Governors Executive Orders with regards to Civil Procedure.





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Here's an interesting project for the handyperson/renewable energy aficionado. The following links lead to two cool articles from The Mother Earth News Online, which were published in 1981. They tell how you can adapt a bike to produce pumping power (like for water) or even electricity!

The writer admits that you can't power your whole house this way. Using a car battery to charge up and then draw from, you would have to pedal about 20 hours to get an hour's worth of electricity. But if you were going to be working out on an exercise bike anyway, hey, you'd be getting a little something back!

It's very easy to go to these pages and print them out for later use. You know, just in case of total economic collapse or something....

Part 1

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kementari2
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Inauguration Day is this coming Tuesday. Millions of people are expected to attend - twice as many as can actually fit on the Mall, according to some estimates (allowing for a standard 5-foot square playing grid).

Like most people who live in Virginia and work in DC, I'm planning to take Monday and Tuesday off or try to work from home. The bridges are all closed and the Metro will be packed with tourists.

I've pondered the possibility of a terrorist threat. If I were worried, I could easily spend the day at my family's cabin in West Virginia, but I'm not. The stampedes or suspicious packages that any large event brings won't bother me 10 miles outside of the city, and anything that would, such as a nuclear bomb, is unlikely in the extreme.

For those of you who live in or near DC, what are your plans and what have you done in previous years? Renting out your room, trying to make it in to the office, watching the parade from a private apartment building or government building?

For those of you who will be attending the inauguration, how are you preparing? Train tickets, hotels, any additional safety precautions? Any interesting plans to check out the rest of the city while you're here?

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kementari2
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Yoinked from wtf_nature. Do you have an evacuation route away from bodies of water that are prone to flooding?


The "Mega Tsunami" predicted to wipe out the east coast:


In short, Cumbre Viejo, a volcano on the island of La Palma in the canary islands, is predicted to shed its Northeast flank into the ocean. Geologists figure this will be due to water or magma expansion against the side that's already sliding roughly a centimeter a year. The resulting tsunami could wash two miles inland into east coast cities. Geologists figure it's MORE likely to happen now due to global warming, as previous incidents of this type have always occurred during earth's warm periods.

A Tsunami of this type (something dropping into the ocean) results in a much higher wave than those caused by underwater earthquakes and plate slippage.

For those with phobias or not enough to worry about, if you want to avoid natural disasters, Alice Springs in Australia is about the only place you'd be safe moving to, as it's the most geologically stable region on the habitable planet (Antarctica is your other option).

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How can it be that as the global economy melts down, this community is strangely quiet??

Anyhow, does anyone know what kinds of batering currencies are out there? I heard that the Liberty Dollar has been stopped by the FBI.
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this is all the stuff i take out of my bag, and off my person to go to an airport




see, THIS is why i hate terrorists, AND the government
if my plane goes down, i'd NEED this stuff!

i mean, its not like i'm not dangerous with what i DO take or anything, or things that i can find there, but MAN, when you have kit . . .and have to leave it behind. . . gah!
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Ever since US Vice President Dick Cheney returned from his whirlwind junket, back in mid-March, to discuss "business" with the leaders of Israel, the Sunni Gulf States and Saudi Arabia, a number of events rapidly transpired, as if a strategic chessboard was now hurriedly set for serious play. The following indicate a green light for a military option has been given, its prosecution imminent.

Days after Cheney's departure, the high Saudi Shura council had discussed plans for initiating national radiation emergency drills.

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Let me tell ya'll that I just found a community about vegetable growing. This year I will be growing all the food I can, as a learning process, because next year we will NEED the food. This ethanol mistake is going to cost the world alot of terrible times, and I am getting ready. If you garden, join the group! growing_food

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Because I have a lot of medical personnel I'm friends with, I had posted a request to my journal for a list of items to include in an "advanced" medical kit for emergencies. I forsee, in the event of a major emergency (Katrina and Rita hit my area), medical personnel becoming so overwhelmed with major injuries that people with lesser problems would take resources and attention away from those who desperately need it. In other words, I wanted the equipment to be able to handle simple medical procedures in my home. Things like sewing 1 - 10 stitches, scalpels for small procedures, basic prescription drugs for simple problems, basic non-prescription drugs for simple problems, etc.

The answer I got from the medical personnel I knew was basically "don't worry about it", or "you wouldn't have a need for that". I'm sure they're well-meaning people, but I like being prepared. I'd rather have my supply of these items for my own use, and for the use of my family, than to rely on centralized medical centers.

Luckily, a few months later, I came across a piece written by Doctors for Disaster Preparedness.
This piece is on a different website at the following link: http://www.oism.org/Ddp/medkit.htm
Another link with lots of information is http://www.oism.org/oism/s32p1464.htm

It is entitled "A BASIC MEDICAL KIT FOR A 10-20 PERSON SHELTER", and was written circa 1987. Some of the prices are off, and some of the medicines have been replaced in common usage with newer types, but it is a good template to use for yourself. I know I'll be getting my Sphygmomanometer soon. (I've always loved that word!)

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I was really hungry and eating just a bite of cheese immediately energized me. I think a block of cheese, would be a good thing to have in the survival pack, provided that you rotate it out every few weeks? It's a good thing to include in your regular diet anyways, the new cheese goes into the pack, then the fridge when another one is brought.

It might not keep as well as canned food, but a block of cheese is lighter and can be the first meal you eat while on the run, you'll probably finish it before it gets moldy. With the hard cheddar block, just cut off the moldy bits and you can still eat the unspoiled center. The big down side is that it's full of salt and will make you thirsty, so pack something else in addition to just the block of cheese.

Onions: Keep a few bulbs of them in your survival pack, they don't spoil easily, they may sprout, but you can eat its green shoots. They are anti-inflammatory and makes me feel much better when I have a cold. They are closely related to garlic which is sometimes used to treat internal parasites in animals.

Duckweed; it's not just a goldfish snack, it's edible to humans too, in case you come across a pond of them. Duckweed soup? I have those things in my aquarium and those things can grow fast when left unchecked by well-fed fishes...they also keep water cleaner and reduce evaporation. I was thinking if you are going to fill the bathtub up with washing water, eventually you can put duckweed in it?

If you want to prepare for a possible siege at your house, or a possible shortage at the market, plant lots of tulips! It's pretty, and you can eat the bulb when you get hungry, petals edible too. Plant it on your lawn, in window boxes, have a giant pot of them indoors! (PS: Never confuse tulips with crocuses, crocuses are poisonous.) Some flowers are poisonous, but plenty are edible, so you can look that up if you are into gardening. Plenty of vegetables, 'salad greens' variety especially, have very attractive leaves that makes them great borders even in the front yard.

ETA: For those of you who enjoy escargot, ever consider keeping a tank of apple snails? Your canned meat could run out, and meat is one of those things that are hard to get in an urban environment. You can sell them to aquarists, or just eat them yourself on a regular basis. It is a delicacy with a high nutritional value, see; eating snails

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Tucked away on page 38 of the Sunday Mail today was a little story about the inevitability of a pandemic flu event and how Australians should be stockpiling at least ten weeks worth of food in preparation. I can't find a link to the full text of the article on-line, but there was a web address included at the end with a guide as to what foods should be stockpiled.

For non-Australians, some of the brands will be unknown, unobtainable, or disliked. And please note that 'biscuit' is used to describe cookies in this list.

Anyway, you can see their guidelines here - http://www.foodlifeboat.com.au/

Thoughts?
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ebonypearl has a good discussion going on about winter preparedness right now.

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http://educate-yourself.org/fe/fewaterasfuel28jan02.shtml

Basically, an electric charge seperates water into it's component hydrogen and oxygen gases, which are sent into the combustion chamber as gasoline and air is now.

I wonder if it'd really work? Any shade-tree mechanics out there got an engine they want to tinker with?

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I found an excellent website, video and book to share with everyone here:

International Preparedness Network
Aton's Top Ten preparedness tools
Preparedness Now!
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298320,00.html?sPage=fnc.technology/cybersecurity

(What follows isn't from the story, it's what I got from watching the news story last week on either CBS or Fox, whichever one it was. They interviewed some expert who talked about the possible repercussions from such an attack.)

You think a power outage from a storm or the like is an inconvenience? What about a 3-month long, or longer, regional blackout?

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I just launched a community devoted to exchanging information for those interested in Community Emergency Response Teams. It is meant to enhance the things shared on this community, and to help those who wish to take their disaster preparedness and recovery skills and learning a step further.

Check it out!

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Who cares for the welfare of the elderly of Louisiana?

Find Mrs./ Ms. Martin, give her a hug and a team of brilliant lawyers please...

With  the necessitation of lawsuits such as these post Katrina,  the pre-Katrina publicity promoting Louisiana as a "Great Place to Retire" rings hollow.  To place blame on the levees for the lack of evacuation prior to a  450 mile wide storm is a red herring.  "Red Herring" is a very nice word because I have sooo many more inappropriate foul-mouthed words to hissssssss on this nursing home evacuation issue.  The levees were somewhat functional prior to Katrina and have nothing, absolutely NOTHING to do with a timely evacuation.  Read what Victor Hull had to say from St. Pete's Beach.
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Just stumbled across this through another blog I read and thought it would make for some interesting conversation around here.

The Top 100 Items to Disappear First in Case of an Emergency
http://baconreport.blogspot.com/2007/07/top-100-items-to-disappear-first-during.html

The writer doesn't list a source, but it's good food for thought.

Cheers, all
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louisianaquest
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louisianaquest

Who dat ? Say it isn’t so…

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louisianaquest

Hey, mister…where’d ya get that gas?

Does your parish have a plan to supply generators along its hurricane evacuation routes?
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Please could anyone advise on coping with flooding over a wide area? Going elsewhere isn't an option.

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